tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post6697810754725191183..comments2023-10-20T08:27:40.314-04:00Comments on male pattern boldness: Woo Hoo -- a New Vogue Men's Shirt Pattern!Peter Lappinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-3084999485596925972013-02-16T01:14:56.208-05:002013-02-16T01:14:56.208-05:00Yes, one of the reason I started sewing was becaus...Yes, one of the reason I started sewing was because it was hard finding my size and finding anything under a 30" waist takes effort! Even the pants patterns start at size 30" waist!scorpioninbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12004830986247178040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-21202323877878560062013-02-15T09:50:48.982-05:002013-02-15T09:50:48.982-05:00The 27 measurment was at his natural waist, I beli...The 27 measurment was at his natural waist, I believe it's closer to 28 or 29 at his hips where he wears his pants. He recently lost over 50lbs so we're just starting to encounter problems with finding clothes, which is also why I'm trying to start sewing for him more. The last jeans he bought were a 30, I believe, and he just wears a belt. He's in the delayed enlistment program with the Navy so pretty soon they'll be providing most of his clothing. :)<br />SarahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-70004429452104093392013-02-14T22:05:24.562-05:002013-02-14T22:05:24.562-05:00Maybe Vogue are just so out of practise at making ...Maybe Vogue are just so out of practise at making Men's patterns, they've kinda forgotten how? poppykettlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089242289854891320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-15717312850303925682013-02-14T09:47:08.377-05:002013-02-14T09:47:08.377-05:00He has a 27" waist??!! Wow!! Up until the ag...He has a 27" waist??!! Wow!! Up until the age of 40 I had a 28" waist and that's very small in mens' sizing, now I'm a 29 and finally almost 140lbs! LOL!! It must be impossible for him to find pants that fit off the rack...it seems that everything starts at size 30 nowadays, how does he find his clothes or do you make them?scorpioninbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12004830986247178040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-40542675078557308462013-02-14T08:58:25.714-05:002013-02-14T08:58:25.714-05:00I'm still reeling from that fact that Vogue ha...I'm still reeling from that fact that Vogue has any men's patterns in production!! It's truly horrendous how all of the major companies, with the exception of Burda and Kwik-Sew have abandoned men's fashion!! I have to start scouring the net for basic vintage patterns!scorpioninbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12004830986247178040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-78156474555181804362013-02-13T15:56:35.097-05:002013-02-13T15:56:35.097-05:00I've had that experience, too! I bought a beau...I've had that experience, too! I bought a beautiful vintage black velvet cocktail dress back in the early 90's and wore it for a formal in college. The tag said the dress was a size 16. At the time I was about a size 10 and it fit me perfectly. Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11447949592701882774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-30563430470713902132013-02-13T15:49:55.959-05:002013-02-13T15:49:55.959-05:00You're right - I should have been more specifi...You're right - I should have been more specific when I typed it, since it's what I meant. And now I will laugh at those who keep telling me that agave is so much better than high fructose corn syrup, since I had no idea what its fructose levels were. Good to know.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11447949592701882774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-84502889377436025632013-02-13T14:27:44.760-05:002013-02-13T14:27:44.760-05:00I am glad you are doing such a thorough review on ...I am glad you are doing such a thorough review on this pattern. It looked interesting when I saw it, but after the sizing issues with the Vogue 8801 pants I made, I was hesitant to try this pattern. With your insight, I might try it.Thin Man Sewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08820357163147529393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-60909681934710628302013-02-13T14:24:50.907-05:002013-02-13T14:24:50.907-05:00If you have a JoAnn's or similar store in your...If you have a JoAnn's or similar store in your area they have McCall's and Simplicity for $1 on a regular basis, like every few weeks. The Vogue's are a little higher, like $3.99, a lot better than $20. Sign up on McCall.com for the emails, they have sales all the time, you just have to pay shipping, but when buying 3 or 4 patterns, the shipping spreads out and is not too bad.Thin Man Sewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08820357163147529393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-58264086890216685112013-02-13T13:33:56.168-05:002013-02-13T13:33:56.168-05:00Having just finished my first Negroni, I'm in ...Having just finished my first Negroni, I'm in a men's shirt sewing mood and wanting to try another one. I will be interested to see your results. oldjovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07466998093720695837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-42005089825225495862013-02-13T11:14:36.424-05:002013-02-13T11:14:36.424-05:00Hi Peter,
I bought this pattern the moment it cam...Hi Peter,<br /><br />I bought this pattern the moment it came out! (because my readers have come to expect me to be on top of these things, lol, and it's a business expense for me ;)<br /><br />But so far, I am not feeling any love for this pattern at all. The comparisons you've made to your TNT patterns are the same I've found when comparing this new Vogue to my custom shirt drafts. What this tells me (along with the hidden button placket and those tuck details, plus the narrow shaped side panels--oy vey!)......is that this pattern looks more like a "blouse" draft than a shirt draft. I really *hope* I am wrong!<br /><br />I've had the darn thing for 2 weeks and after examining the pieces, I haven't been able to force myself to make this shirt/blouse. <br /><br />Like you, I am making the short sleeve version. I'll be making a muslin of the full-on version with all the details (yep, including the 8 pin-tucks...sigh), in my DH's size. The thing is, since I don't have any cheap shirt fabrics, I have to render this experimental shirt in the least expensive shirting I have on hand...Italian Linen.<br /><br />This is going to be interesting!<br /><br />BTW...did you see my "ShirtMaker's Secret Collar Turning Technique" Tutorial? You'll never poke collar points again :)Pam Ernyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364147606316729502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-58292171276185888932013-02-13T10:38:12.408-05:002013-02-13T10:38:12.408-05:00I bought this pattern too because I'm thinking...I bought this pattern too because I'm thinking the side pieces may help me get a better fit on Phin. So, I'm eager for your critique!Cliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05552253628640209694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-52496842034024397852013-02-13T10:36:31.029-05:002013-02-13T10:36:31.029-05:00What I know is this: If a Vogue pattern says it...What I know is this: If a Vogue pattern says it's loose-fitting, it's l o o s e - f i t t i n g!!!chesneykathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01533697168294117101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-25522255333943649472013-02-13T10:22:47.305-05:002013-02-13T10:22:47.305-05:00Wow, good luck with this. I would already have gi...Wow, good luck with this. I would already have given up at this point. I know you'll make it all work out in the end. I look forward to seeing how the concealed button placket comes out. It's a nice touch, as are the side seams. It nice to see a pattern with some creative features. Mainelydadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05718855427399616514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-11669198746703326962013-02-13T09:44:52.877-05:002013-02-13T09:44:52.877-05:00Peter,
In 2011 I bought a Burda Style(May), just ...Peter,<br /><br />In 2011 I bought a Burda Style(May), just because of the men's shirt pattern. I did it for my DH and I like very much the cut. The size was perfect, with no fitting issues, except for the lenght.<br /><br />Now I have just found and bought an older Burda von February 2001, because it has several men's patterns! All the patterns are more Sommer-like, but anyway, one can always change the fabric and color, and add some lining, for other time of the year or style. There is a Sommer suit and a 3/4 long coat, a short jacket, one pattern for each pants and Bermudas and three different patterns for shirts, one of them fitted.Andrea Cornellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-5860322965740936432013-02-13T08:44:30.568-05:002013-02-13T08:44:30.568-05:00I'm actually pretty excited that this runs lar...I'm actually pretty excited that this runs larger. My husband has insanely broad shoulders. So much so that even if he were to lose 30lbs, he'd still be the exact same shirt size. I'm actually excited to pick this pattern up and try it out for him!Michee Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11148553328337457750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-85375118730009982762013-02-13T08:37:51.216-05:002013-02-13T08:37:51.216-05:00hmmm... how weird about the sizing. i thought all ...hmmm... how weird about the sizing. i thought all that crazy ease nonsense was just a women's pattern issue. i was happy to see vogue put out some menswear, but frankly i could do without the princess seams. given that a good dress shirt has all that flat felling going on, that's a lot of extra seams to do! at any rate, i do look forward to seeing your opinion on the shirt pattern!lisa g.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09891757600316953288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-84108694683236784012013-02-13T08:28:41.911-05:002013-02-13T08:28:41.911-05:00I'm so glad you are tackling this pattern befo...I'm so glad you are tackling this pattern before I do. Great information here. I bought it but I'm trying the new suit pattern for DH before I make the shirt up.BetsyVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14824251716471351275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-56728009764116017532013-02-13T07:48:52.844-05:002013-02-13T07:48:52.844-05:00"goog"? Oh my, I read my comment careful..."goog"? Oh my, I read my comment carefully several times, and I don't notice that? *mental facepalm*Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-86068430015172654182013-02-13T07:47:31.923-05:002013-02-13T07:47:31.923-05:00I'm with MrsC above... why bother? But someone...I'm with MrsC above... why bother? But someone has to find out, and in this case it's you, so: good luck.<br />(A goog Czech Jára Cimrman - which is too complicated to explain in a blog comment - quote: Someone has to explore the dead ends of human progress and tell others: "This way not, my friends!")<br /><br />As for the ease... beats me. I'm obviously European, so I'm more used to the Burda standard, which, as far as the self-pattern-making me can tell, is not that crazy in that respect. Maybe it has something to do with the prevalence of knits in contemporary clothing? The fact that people are just not used to fitted wovens anymore? Or it might be a relict of the loose-fitting clothes of the 1990s. But that's both just my speculation.Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-39585863236395497532013-02-13T07:37:30.556-05:002013-02-13T07:37:30.556-05:00I agree, a 36" chest should mean cut size 36....I agree, a 36" chest should mean cut size 36. And even if it's an easy fit shirt, it still needs to fit. How can it have a wider than expected yoke and also have longer sleeves? If the yoke is intended to fall off the shoulders and be loose fitting, then the sleeves need to have been shortened by a comparable amount. Easy fit doesn't mean just put the pattern in an enlarger. Jne4slhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02709409881841287562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-2004110571132370842013-02-13T07:17:44.504-05:002013-02-13T07:17:44.504-05:00I understand the distinction, and I'm willing ...I understand the distinction, and I'm willing to cut patterns based on my actual measurements instead of what I've come to expect from retailers or whatever. However, I find that dogma doesn't work in practice. In this case that would be a Vogue size 10. But by the ease markings on the pattern and measuring it myself, the size 10 has 3" of ease at all points of the body. I've seen this same dress in stores, it is tight fitting. The size that fits me correctly has negative ease at all points of the body. A rauched knit dress does not work if it is loose fitting. My point is even though Vogue started with a dress sold retail, they have rejiggered the sizing to the point that what is printed on the envelope is of no use.Jne4slhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02709409881841287562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-67256704515398537132013-02-13T04:29:50.454-05:002013-02-13T04:29:50.454-05:00Question - if you have to adjust this pattern so m...Question - if you have to adjust this pattern so much, why bother with it at all? It seems gammy to me - the sleeve heads are far too high for a man's shirt, more like a blouse, ew! All the best - me, I'm such a convert ot them old 70's shirt patterns (thanks to you and Oobop) there's no going back :)MrsC (Maryanne)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14440723067459232998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-31698702560555267162013-02-13T03:54:45.691-05:002013-02-13T03:54:45.691-05:00I'm eager to see how it'll work out ! I...I'm eager to see how it'll work out ! I'm toying with the idea of sewing a shirt for the SO, but I'm undecided between this pattern and the new Burda pattern. This one's technical drawing looks like his best-fitting shirt (with this princess-like seams), but the "loose fitting" things made me dubious. The Burda pattern has darts instead, but it does look fitted on the enveloppe. <br /><br />(I asked the subject which pattern he liked most, and he said : whatever as long as it's white or blue. *sigh*). Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-50482085131725483702013-02-13T03:23:39.607-05:002013-02-13T03:23:39.607-05:00I'm really curious to see how this turns out! ...I'm really curious to see how this turns out! I like the extra details; I hope the fitting isn't too much of an issue for you.niddetissushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15675473136978180192noreply@blogger.com