tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post4577068084691825384..comments2023-10-20T08:27:40.314-04:00Comments on male pattern boldness: Things I Don't Get, Vol 12 -- The $2,025 Vintage Sundress PatternPeter Lappinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-45363583934169118552013-12-26T13:19:07.777-05:002013-12-26T13:19:07.777-05:00I agree. I've thought this would be a good wa...I agree. I've thought this would be a good way to hide cash ever since I saw someone bid $300 for a used sewing book I bought on Abebooks.com for $5.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-87062292260079465502013-12-22T11:18:21.616-05:002013-12-22T11:18:21.616-05:00I do agree with Clio, for 2K take a pattern class,...I do agree with Clio, for 2K take a pattern class, or pay a pattern maker, make it in 3 sizes and sell it to Bloomingdales, or make a paper pattern and give it to your friends. This must be a serous collector!angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03928065238345574964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-41111371483613488832013-12-10T22:15:19.070-05:002013-12-10T22:15:19.070-05:00I wont guess at what went on with this bid but I a...I wont guess at what went on with this bid but I am a vintage collector and I have spend $$$$ on the odd pattern. I was also part of a bidding war over a pattern book, I won. I don't have deep pockets but I do save a lot so when that one thing I'm missing pops up I might do just about anything to get it.<br /><br />However I also put limits on time spent on ebay for that reason.Not everyone wants to admit to how much they spend. I spent a lot very little but most people spent a little a lot.Atomic Mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00550539152627115160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-34477834744440447092013-12-08T12:06:57.199-05:002013-12-08T12:06:57.199-05:00There is always a big loss on money laundering. An...There is always a big loss on money laundering. And you don't want to be making transactions as unusual as this one. The only way this makes sense is if the pattern was drafted by the widow of a Nigerian politician.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-88300814561447896142013-12-07T15:11:15.446-05:002013-12-07T15:11:15.446-05:00Now, she has bid on 798 items in the past 30 days....Now, she has bid on 798 items in the past 30 days.<br /><br />Maybe she takes holiday shopping *very* seriously. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-89470773939080211172013-12-07T14:52:47.177-05:002013-12-07T14:52:47.177-05:00I believe their was either an error in listing the...I believe their was either an error in listing the auction price or the seller has really over valued the pattern. But you never know. I saw a pattern sell for over $750.00 once and another that was only an envelope sell for $191.00. You never know. I'd never buy a pattern for that amount of cash. Also I don' believe mail order patterns-depending on the maker, designer or style of dress need be any less valuable than a pattern sold by one of the big commercial pattern companies-and some mail order patterns do indeed have big designer names attached to them-not necessarily obscure designers--and can and do (even some apron patterns) sell over 100+...it all depends. callliehttp://sewcraftful.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-48959199493285312702013-12-05T23:16:56.430-05:002013-12-05T23:16:56.430-05:00I have no theory. I'm just flummoxed. I would ...I have no theory. I'm just flummoxed. I would not pay that amount for a pattern - any pattern - in Czech Crowns, even if I had that kind of spending money - let alone US Dollars!<br />It IS a nice dress, in a completely generic 50s way - but that same completely generic 50s way is exactly what makes it even more of a headscratcher.<br /><br />The comparison of the two patterns reminds me a lot of a Rate the Dress dress-off of the sundresses by the same designer The Dreamstress did a while back. One had a full skirt, other was slim and pocketed. They came out with very, very close ratings. :-)Hana - Marmotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532515160608083460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-71401236613454266302013-12-05T18:01:43.556-05:002013-12-05T18:01:43.556-05:00That's insane! If it wasn't some sort of g...That's insane! If it wasn't some sort of glitch, I have no idea why anyone would do that.<br />It isn't even a complicated pattern. I'm only halfway through my first year of fashion classes and I could draft that thing with my eyes shut. This makes no sense.Vincent Briggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03854232669957741296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-29157184629875820152013-12-05T16:38:14.539-05:002013-12-05T16:38:14.539-05:00Some kind of hoarder or shopping addict who is emb...Some kind of hoarder or shopping addict who is embezzling money from their employer to buy antiques on eBay...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-17401668963661623092013-12-05T12:54:26.621-05:002013-12-05T12:54:26.621-05:00I don't shop on Ebay anymore because to be hon...I don't shop on Ebay anymore because to be honest I can get new clothes less expensive than some of the used ones. Years ago, when I did hang out at Ebay I got loads of fabric really cheap, and everything else in between. When sewing became trendy again, the price of sewing machines on Ebay went up. There were some people who got a great deal, and then there are others who just like the power to outbid because they can. I don't get that, but I do know someone like that.<br />There could be so many reasons for this pattern to be so pricey, and they have already been givenJosettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17470039217443534947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-5925426611302756782013-12-05T11:17:55.647-05:002013-12-05T11:17:55.647-05:00It might be a mistake, as others have suggested. ...It might be a mistake, as others have suggested. However, as someone who has attended auctions IRL as well as online, people get weirdly caught up in the competition of bidding and I've seen prices bid up to far more than they're worth.<br /><br />I was taught long ago not to get caught up in those kinds of p***ing matches. I decide what my maximum is for an item, and I stick to it (I love the proxy bid on E-Bay). If I'm outbid--Oh well.geogrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935352129240009810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-26037508471589469782013-12-04T17:59:48.392-05:002013-12-04T17:59:48.392-05:00I think the great answer will come if you see posi...I think the great answer will come if you see positive feedback for this pattern. I can't see why this pattern is so expensive.Joannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16439393534029787165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-4150794393826110912013-12-04T17:05:03.093-05:002013-12-04T17:05:03.093-05:00I think it's one of two things happening: Eith...I think it's one of two things happening: Either someone forgot to put in a decimal point in their maximum bid, in which case he or she is FREAKING out right now and the sale will probably not go through -- or else, as another reader has commented, it's probably Money Laundering for Terrorists!! Rebecca Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14801489818836195754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-61856488526771837692013-12-04T12:16:42.764-05:002013-12-04T12:16:42.764-05:00Yes, I've seen patterns on E-Bay go for this k...Yes, I've seen patterns on E-Bay go for this kind of money, and I don't get it either. I can understand a higher price if it's by an iconic designer, but even then the prices get excessive and copies are available at places like the vintage pattern library.<br /><br />I think often it's the artwork rather than the actual dress pattern.geogrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935352129240009810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-240062765496414282013-12-04T12:01:12.195-05:002013-12-04T12:01:12.195-05:00I've bought many patterns from oncillacat and ...I've bought many patterns from oncillacat and can swear that she is not a rip-off artist. It's not her fault if people went nuts bidding. I can promise you she didn't have an opening bid that was anywhere near that range.<br /><br />Also, don't assume that mail-order patterns are always less valuable. Some of them are very nice designs and since they're often quite rare, they can be very desirable. They also came in a wider range of sizes, especially plus sizes, and I've certainly had no worse luck with their drafting or sizing than I have with Simplicity (I'm looking at you, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleblackcar/5488100092/in/set-72157634907545820" rel="nofollow">Simplicity 4727</a>, 1943, and the seven inches I had to take out of your bodice). They're not "off-brands".<br /><br />No, I wouldn't pay that for . . . almost anything. Even if I had the money, but whatever. To each his or her own.Little Black Carhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313164876855565140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-49728466481388608222013-12-04T10:48:20.290-05:002013-12-04T10:48:20.290-05:00I hope somebody didn't leave their bidding on ...I hope somebody didn't leave their bidding on autopilot! That would be scary. I might do it, if and only if, my mother or grandmother designed the pattern and I wanted an original. Otherwise, no way. ACorgiHousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11570407072060958620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-20516797561876857422013-12-04T10:44:35.177-05:002013-12-04T10:44:35.177-05:00It looks a lot like a Colette Parfait ...It looks a lot like a Colette Parfait ...margueritedesignshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219753464772441861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-75454078104853635102013-12-04T09:51:19.769-05:002013-12-04T09:51:19.769-05:00Wow! For $2k+ I'd take some drafting classes, ...Wow! For $2k+ I'd take some drafting classes, buy some awesome fabric, make the dress myself and probably have some leftover funds!Cliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05552253628640209694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-46953882997705204432013-12-04T09:37:01.152-05:002013-12-04T09:37:01.152-05:00If you really wanted to make a dress like that, it...If you really wanted to make a dress like that, it would be easy to modify Decades of Style's Rosie the Riveter overalls! And much cheaper!<br /><br />http://www.decadesofstyle.com/vintage-patterns-1930s/3008-1930s-sweetheart-overallsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-23643681383507661292013-12-04T09:13:15.309-05:002013-12-04T09:13:15.309-05:00considering the fees of Ebay and Paypal, you would...considering the fees of Ebay and Paypal, you would lose a good portion of your ill gotten gains money launderingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-84662359682315795162013-12-04T09:07:19.200-05:002013-12-04T09:07:19.200-05:00That's bananas!!! I wonder if it was some craz...That's bananas!!! I wonder if it was some crazy manufacturer (with no experience) who thought they would use this pattern to create a line of *highly original* sundresses *just like all the other sundresses out there* and make a billion buxx. silly. Margaret von Zipper-Pantshttp://senjivastudio.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-20306083773146918442013-12-04T07:23:06.763-05:002013-12-04T07:23:06.763-05:00Wow, I would never expect a sewing pattern to sell...Wow, I would never expect a sewing pattern to sell for that amount. The most I have paid is around £12 and that included shipping to the UK.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941403034210721208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-6181033367974856952013-12-04T06:37:13.834-05:002013-12-04T06:37:13.834-05:00fascinating. Agree your sundress is much prettier...fascinating. Agree your sundress is much prettier. Would definitely not pay a great deal for this pattern. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-25701784113108157362013-12-04T06:21:30.854-05:002013-12-04T06:21:30.854-05:00Sounds like an Ebay fluke. I've purchased patt...Sounds like an Ebay fluke. I've purchased patterns from that vendor and they're on the up and up. By the way, there is a line of mail order patterns that are highly collectible because they were copied from actual retail designer garments, and that's Spadea. I just made jacket from their 1962 Chanel pattern and it's the real deal. Their patterns by Ceil Chapman (favorite designer of Marilyn Monroe) have gone for more than $400 on eBay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-6857955794449700952013-12-04T04:08:56.889-05:002013-12-04T04:08:56.889-05:00Very interesting event. Obviously something amiss,...Very interesting event. Obviously something amiss, and some wonderfully colorful ideas of why or how it could happen. Looking at the statistics of each bidder and the timing of the bids it looks to me like a rare concurrence of events - one making a mistake when entering their highest automatic bid, and then the other experienced some sort of digital/electronic malfunction which resulted in overbidding until the auction was won. However, as SewingDiva PDX noted, the winning bidder has participated in an unusually high number of auctions in a relatively short time, especially for someone who is not a professional seller on Ebay. Curious. But the regular intervals between the bids above the automatic bid still suggest some sort of error in mechanics or software. Will we ever know the answer? Is anyone tempted to email the seller and ask what was the outcome? PS: As marlogal said, shilling is a serious accusation on ebay, not to be tossed about lightly. In any case, no one in their right mind would try to shill those amounts on that kind of object. Where is Sherlock when we need him?Papadesdeuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11629184020220545924noreply@blogger.com