tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post2998798183133812017..comments2023-10-20T08:27:40.314-04:00Comments on male pattern boldness: Are you sophisticated?Peter Lappinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-61037340204014689112011-07-23T11:21:27.830-04:002011-07-23T11:21:27.830-04:00In the days of the Hollywood studio system, the sa...In the days of the Hollywood studio system, the same factory that scripted a star's persona could also produce the clothing, hair, makeup and publicity stills to match. The studios could afford to hire only the best people, so the quality was consistently high. It was very top-down but as they say, democracy doesn't work well in the arts.Mr. Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02998044131740461522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-33216501902878071422011-07-20T07:31:06.579-04:002011-07-20T07:31:06.579-04:00No one is perfect after all. I like it you chose B...No one is perfect after all. I like it you chose Bette Davis cause of the characters she mostly portrayed, which were so diverse and many times unsympathetic. This on itself delivers her a certain grace. The bad guys in a film often has more style than the good ones. <br />You are or you aren't sophisticated is I think put a little to black and white. If you haven't been provided from youth with good examples it isn't easy to get it right when you make your way through the world. Two sister I am befriend with are completely opposite of the sophistication scale. One just does her thing and has gotten into a certain aura over the years cause it's not only the clothes its what is feelt or a certain conviction from inside seeping out giving her that finishing touch. The onther one tries sometimes but doesn't seem to be bothered so it isn't heart felt. Both are of course great friends but the difference is there.Jemma A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12984427687895553654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-21567620577410828582011-07-20T06:39:27.110-04:002011-07-20T06:39:27.110-04:00I believe sophistication is a package, and i also ...I believe sophistication is a package, and i also agree with a pevious comment on age defining sophistication. I think it's about knowloege and experience, and the way to moulds you. I think there are people who are naturally sophisticated as opposed to those who are trying too hard, i.e. GaGa and XTina. <br /><br />Would Bette Davis be a clichéd idol? Or a questionable one? She had the whole package, although her attitude did hang in the balance between classy and immature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-13578376983834330512011-07-20T06:17:43.501-04:002011-07-20T06:17:43.501-04:00I am sorry to say I haven't read every comment...I am sorry to say I haven't read every comment so forgive me if things are repeated in this one. The thing is I stumbled upon this blog and was sifting through the articles, this one caught my attention so entirely, I could scroll down no further! You are right it is an attitude. I myself am from Belgium, the Dutch speaking region, Flanders. I do nottice that people from older generations like my mother-in-law or grandparents still try to uphold a certain behavior. A very Flemish thought is "What will people think?", so my mother-in-law never goes out without having had her curlers in. I believe that the casualness of dress has a lot to do with what is available in shops today. I am not very skinny but I am not big either. I am women sized with hips and bust. So nothing like what gets advertised today. Many clothes in shops do not fit right or fits and looks crappy. When I do find somthing I like it usually turns out to cost a bomb. That is the main reason I have started teaching myself how to sew. To wear things to my personal taste and have them fit nice. So I won't just grab any old jumper and humdrum pair of trousers, cause matching them isn't to challenging when you are standing in front of the wardrobe in the mornings thinking you have nothing to wear! The result is feeling unconfortable all day lang cause you feel as plain as dirt.<br />I enjoyed reading this article cause so many truthes are articulated in it. How could anyone compare a rolemodel like e.g. Jacky Onassis with "Lady Gaga".Jemma A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12984427687895553654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-42879119679051146242011-07-20T01:19:18.745-04:002011-07-20T01:19:18.745-04:00sorry - I just spotted gobs of typo's above - ...sorry - I just spotted gobs of typo's above - sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-43366564525401131472011-07-20T01:16:44.769-04:002011-07-20T01:16:44.769-04:00I can't believe I read every article! I grew u...I can't believe I read every article! I grew up in Germany, so I'm looking at this from two different sides. In Germany, one has the language of "high German", which is taught in the schools and is expected from "sophisticated" people. Those speaking the dialects native to where they were born and lived (mostly farmers and the poor), could speak "high German" if they had to, but it didn't feel quite right on the tongue. There was also a difference in their education - as those who were considered "sophisticated" went on to the "Gymnasium", which is college, and the rest lumbered along on the path of a trade school. The folks (mostly northerners) who spoke high German, were well educated, attended college, made more money, and were a higher "class". The others were laborers, dressed in what one wears on a farm, and spoke with thick accents, which didn't evoke classy sophistication. Paris was where the fashion came from before America managed to infiltrate the culture. However, no farmer would EVER have attended church in jeans. No farmer's wife would have gone to church in anything but her best clothes. My mom never left the house without lipstick, the only make up she used. The feeling I get from the U.S. is lazy - too lazy to dress up, wear something special or nice, and like the one poster said, wear freshly polished shoes, a matching handbag, etc... . One took care of their appearance in public because they had pride, the wanted to be respectful (especially in church), and no one ever wor revealing clothes. German children were extremely well behaved and hardworking - like their parents, who used corporal punishment frely. Now Germany' kids and teens look like Americans and have such disrespect for authority. And, I see that in the U.S. kids and teens as well. It cannot be a coincidence that statistics show those schools that have uniforms have higher SAT scores and so forth. It is a combination of pride, respect, education, values, appropriate role models, discipline, patience (remember wanting to wear your first pair of panty hose, which would replace the "childish" knee socks?), modesty, and financial resources. Now there are parents dressing up children in tiaras and sexualizing them at the age of 3. So, I believe everyone spoke a bit of the truth - because I believe it is a little of everything that was mentioned. Children also never used to call adults by their first names. How could we have gone from that to having teens wear thongs and shorts/skirts that are so short, that a teacher I know has to use Lysol on the chairs in between classes!? I'd put a green unhappy face here if I knew how.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-52254156189300259892011-07-16T07:46:52.984-04:002011-07-16T07:46:52.984-04:00Speaking of sophisticated...I thought of you when ...Speaking of sophisticated...I thought of you when I saw these --enjoy!<br /><br />http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303812104576442393263086196.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth<br /><br />CarlaCarlanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-85685676947008482022011-07-14T22:16:27.224-04:002011-07-14T22:16:27.224-04:00Seriously? "Don't try and understand her ...Seriously? "Don't try and understand her she's an artist."? So don't try and understand art? <br /><br />If you can't attempt to understand art either the artist isn't doing their job, or you aren't doing yours as the audience.<br /><br />There is no way in this world I would call her an artist. A focused grouped multi media venture with a lot of money invested in her, perhaps. If she's an artist, then Hot Topic is as 'indie' as they are focus grouped to me.Shelleyjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05223944949880318245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-19278721639557162032011-07-14T16:11:12.490-04:002011-07-14T16:11:12.490-04:00Don't try to understand Lady Gaga, she is an a...Don't try to understand Lady Gaga, she is an artist.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06793295526771577222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-76037311695959260292011-07-14T15:46:41.443-04:002011-07-14T15:46:41.443-04:00I think that if you think sophistication lies in p...I think that if you think sophistication lies in people's clothing or appearance then you don't know what sophistication means. I think you mean "chic", not sophistication. There are some very simple people who dress beautifully and some very sophisticated people who wear nothing but jeans.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-89136825297721244172011-07-14T14:33:22.038-04:002011-07-14T14:33:22.038-04:00I can't help but think that our society's ...I can't help but think that our society's turn toward mass consumerism and waste doesn't have a bit to do with the loss of pride in many people's appearance and carriage. Clothing and shoes are for the most part, inexpensive, cheaply made, disposable. Why take care of your clothes and shoes when they wear out in a season and you can buy a replacement for cheap at a discount store?<br /><br />When I was a child, we had few clothes, they were expensive for us to buy and my mom made most of my wardrobe. I was taught to take care of my clothes, polish my shoes weekly, and care of my hair and nails. I grew to love to look nice when we went out, to wear well-fitting, well-made clothes and shoes. I was taught how to sit, greet people, write thank you notes.<br /><br />Nowadays, I stand out in the crowd which seems kind of silly. A greeter at WalMart told me "You must not be from around here," because I was in a skirt, sweater, scarf, and heels, with my hair piled on my head. It makes me somewhat uncomfortable that I stand out, but I've learned to ignore the stares when I dress for a dinner out with my man.<br /><br />So, maybe the problem it isn't just a lack of education, societal expectations, and rampant immaturity, but also a serious lack of quality products on the shelves that are worth buying and caring for.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984385864865301366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-49462184603897241592011-07-14T04:19:41.690-04:002011-07-14T04:19:41.690-04:00Having read the first 20 comments or so, one thing...Having read the first 20 comments or so, one thing strikes me as missing: <br /><br />How can you be sophisticated while showing off cleavage or wearing a skirt slitted up to navel-level?<br /><br />To me, a lot of the sophistication has left the public areas being replaced by blatant sexual vibes.<br /><br />You simply don't see those sophisticated women of yore arranged across the bonnet of a car or leaning over to allow you to see miles and miles of cleavage.Lenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04244063989189298445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-86357761747438398932011-07-14T01:17:26.983-04:002011-07-14T01:17:26.983-04:00Unfortunately, I do not have anything profound to ...Unfortunately, I do not have anything profound to add but have found the post and comments fascinating. My one thought, in the Cafe/Sbarro's pictures, are we not comparing two different places? Perhaps a modern cafe in the city versus the picture. I also wonder if the influence of snapshot cameras make us think that we're less sophisticated than the past. How many every-day, unstaged photos are there in the past? <br /><br />Let's talk about how to develop one's personal style, I'd love to know what you and your readers think.saronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-55121598831584441312011-07-13T23:43:31.873-04:002011-07-13T23:43:31.873-04:00These are all amazing comments.
For myself - in a...These are all amazing comments.<br /><br />For myself - in addition to echoing many of the above thoughts - I think we are at the bottom of a bell curve where perhaps the 1930s-1950s were the top.<br /><br />Education, as someone mentioned, has been completely devalued. Ethics, genuineness - all devalued and people are really belligerent about not being POSSIBLY seen as any of the above, except when necessary (see: many U.S. Congress members).<br /><br />In short, when all the adults are acting like they are in Junior High, it stands to reason the clothing is going to go there as well. <br /><br />Sophistication *itself* has been devalued. It is a crime to act in any way - in America at least - that would imply that you are more educated, aspire to be your best, or have possibly had more opportunities than someone else. In fact, it's just bad manners. (I think most would agree that arrogance IS bad manners but I think Americans have become TOO oversensitized to that criticism and are now falling over themselves in casual folksiness in order to not POSSIBLY be seen as one of those snotty elite people!)<br /><br />America has become focused on teens. Parents are closer to the friend spectrum than the parents, at least, I grew up with - where there were defined roles (including different outfits - I might borrow something from my Mom but she would have died before she borrowed anything from me!). I think people are allowing themselves to be more in love with their children than our parents were - I don't think this is a bad thing - but it has led folks to want to be more LIKE their kids rather than modeling a way for their kids to grow up to be (I'm talking fashion now). Clothing has become more kid-ish b/c it IS comfortable and once you have a ton of people doing it, it's very easy to just go along with the crowd. As several posters pointed out above, when they dress up more, they are asked 'why?' The only possible reason, others think, is a special occasion. <br /><br /><br />AlexandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-33836405552243114722011-07-13T23:13:47.752-04:002011-07-13T23:13:47.752-04:00You hit it with two comments - one having to do wi...You hit it with two comments - one having to do with a sense of self that is so lacking today. It is so apparent in the stars of yore - in their carriage - does anyone concern themselves with "carriage" today? Are women told to keep their legs together - don't cross legs at knees - how to walk - how to get in and out of a car - etc. Another is about knowing the private lives of the stars. Who cares???? I don't think it enhances anyones image to know what brands they buy, what they are addicted to, you get the idea. I like to think that at times I can still appear to have a certain sophistication - but like the rest of the world, I think I am just too lazy most of the time. oh, and it doesn't mean that being sophisticated is all up to women - young men of today need to learn that butt cracks - oh I could make lots of comments on that one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-27451807573589319742011-07-13T21:18:04.411-04:002011-07-13T21:18:04.411-04:00Sophistication is a lifelong journey. There are no...Sophistication is a lifelong journey. There are no child prodigies (meaning youthful 20 somethings) in today's movie star world that have it, period. <br /><br />I also think there is a division about sophistication among the sexes. Men hold a different type of sophistication than women, and in the past era, that was acceptable. Not better/worse, just different. <br /><br />For some reason today, difference isn't looked on as equal. Sophistication of the sexes has to be the same type now, which I think is stupid. <br /><br />I think a core aspect of genuine Sophistication is knowing that you don't have to advertise yourself as the center of attention to *be* the center of attention. There are a lot of old stars I could name that I don't think were vert Sophisticated. Marilyn Monroe being one of them.Shelleyjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05223944949880318245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-47899902571320433442011-07-13T20:57:59.151-04:002011-07-13T20:57:59.151-04:00There were so many rules of etiquette still alive ...There were so many rules of etiquette still alive and kicking at the start of the 20th century. The man and woman on the street either did not know them and were uncouth or they did know them or they did not grow up with them and handled them woodenly, like badly played marionettes.<br />The upper crust, on the other hand spent time and money on learning to internalise all the rules so that they could move through life without ever showing how tightly the social corsetts were woven.<br />And while I like people to be generally friendly and reasonably considerate of their fellow creatures, I'd hate to live in times of constricting etiquette. It is the same with dress, and I think the sophistication visible in some of Peter's examples stems from wearing both the clothes and the manner that went with them lightly.<br />Sophistication would also be a matter of personality. Think of Elizabeth Taylor vs. Audrey Hepburn. Both beautiful and accomplished actresses, but only one of them was sophisticated.nommhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06742663611694888098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-58558662881023204612011-07-13T20:37:06.483-04:002011-07-13T20:37:06.483-04:00My favourite picture of my mom was taken in 1958 -...My favourite picture of my mom was taken in 1958 - she's wearing a black and white check dress with white frame cat-eye sunglasses, white gloves and (as she told me later) red patent leather handbag and shoes. My parents were not wealthy - I think my dad was making less than a hundred dollars a week back then, but my mom sewed her own clothes and shopped carefully for accessories. She never left the house without her gloves and a hat. I asked her once if it bothered her having to fuss about such things and she said, no. Leaving the house without putting some thought into her appearance was simply not on the table. She said it would be like leaving the house without wearing a bra. <br />Perhaps nowadays there's a more aggressive 'take me as I am' attitude. I don't know. The advent of lycra, spandex and all the stretchies really helped kill fine tailoring. Instead of having fewer garments that fit properly there's tons of one size fits all. <br />All that being said, I've been sewing up a storm this summer - the mojo has returned - and it's all dresses all the time. I live in a city where skirts and summer dresses are the norm on women, possibly because our winters are so long and cold. I also like all my tattoos to be visible in the summer - which may put me out of the running in the sophistication sweepstakes. My mother, on the hand, remains my benchmark for sophistication on a budget.LeftyLuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878728257032134390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-80396107641657777912011-07-13T19:45:33.995-04:002011-07-13T19:45:33.995-04:00I blame "casual Fridays". Remember that...I blame "casual Fridays". Remember that, in the eighty's? EVIL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-58748451441231497582011-07-13T18:03:35.635-04:002011-07-13T18:03:35.635-04:00Wow, another great post!
I can’t say that I consi...Wow, another great post!<br /><br />I can’t say that I consider myself to be at all sophisticated, but it is something to which I aspire. But how to define? This is the hard part, yet I think most people can recognize “sophistication” when they see it (rarer than hen’s teeth, these days, I think).<br /><br />I think it’s far more complicated than the clothing we wear, though that’s a part of it. Still, if you put a skirt on a pig it is still a pig.<br /><br />Peter, I agree with your comment, “The dialogue in even the most trite film of the Thirties is literate because more people read books.” I grew up watching old movies on TV (30s and 40s) and there was a way of speaking that seems pretentious these days. I’d rather speak that way than in the manner spoken on reality shows.<br /><br />I know people who have no idea where their local library is.<br /><br />I don’t know if I can blame reality shows completely for the loss of sophistication today, but if this is what America is watching, then no wonder our society is going down the tubes. <br /><br />Look at the train-wreck lives of young pop idols, such as Britney or Paris. Zelda and F. Scott Fitzgerald were the train wrecks of their day, yet to most they seem to have had far more sophistication than today’s bunch.<br /><br />Several people mentioned self-assurance, a way of carrying yourself, being comfortable in your own skin. I couldn’t agree more. Some people call it having strong chi. It’s just something inside that shows confidence.<br /><br />There is a certain amount of pride. As others mentioned, my mother would not go to the corner grocery without making sure that she was dressed properly and had her lipstick on. That didn’t mean dressing fussy or old-fashioned. She dressed well and was clean and well-groomed. <br /><br />I see people going to church in jeans, tee shirts, sneakers, flip-flops, shorts. Their daughters are without bras and their butts hang out of their jeans. Those are their GOOD clothes! Don’t get me started on how they dress at the deli.<br /><br />It’s a matter of self respect.Robertanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-85167117256802416712011-07-13T17:56:20.688-04:002011-07-13T17:56:20.688-04:00My dh and I have discussed this quite often. When ...My dh and I have discussed this quite often. When we were kids in the south in the 1950s, people had more pride in themselves. Even the very poor would clean up themselves and their children and their threadbare clothing and try to be presentable in public as much as possible to go into a store or run errands. Now you see obviously wealthier people in ratty clothing with dirty hair all over the place even the mall. I confess a time or two of having to run in and get an item not being at best but it is a rare thing for me. We wouldn't think of mowing and sweating in a nasty old tee/cut off sweat pants and going to the grocery store to gross people out but that doesn't seem to be norm in the south these days. Even worse are the older women/men with flabby bits hanging out of their tank tops and short shorts fresh out of the tanning bed chunking cigarettes onto the pavement and sporting punked up hair. Right in there are the young men who have their behinds exposed with the pants below their butts-really love that view on the way into the store or in the checkout. This post expresses so much of how we are feeling about sloppy views out in public and how it used to be. mssewcrazyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-74851285892957444922011-07-13T17:51:51.394-04:002011-07-13T17:51:51.394-04:00I think you're right, Shelley. So many great ...I think you're right, Shelley. So many great comments guys.<br /><br />Just to be clear: when I speak of sophistication I mean the genuine article (as it is defined), not just a veneer, and not solely as something belonging to the wealthy. It CAN be faked I suppose, but it ends up looking inauthentic.Peter Lappinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-72691352307899622572011-07-13T17:46:39.185-04:002011-07-13T17:46:39.185-04:00I think the arrogance of 'comfort' has a l...I think the arrogance of 'comfort' has a lot to do with the loss of style.<br />You mentioned the effortless look of celebs in the past compared to today, I think that's in part because those stars of old were used to the clothing that seems so costume now.<br /><br />Dressed has become 'dress up' as in costume, hence the effort that is so garishly noticeable. When you were expected to dress for dinner, dress for a social even, work, etc. true lounging is left at home. You were in the eye of people who you did not know, so that first impression was valuable. Now we have 'see me as I am not what I look like' and in a lot of misguided ways that has been bastardized in today's comfort culture.Shelleyjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05223944949880318245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-40422174270046371682011-07-13T17:16:22.655-04:002011-07-13T17:16:22.655-04:00Confession: I've been a slob most of my adult ...Confession: I've been a slob most of my adult life. For a number of reasons, I developed a highly antagonistic relationship toward clothes, shopping, and social expectations regarding dress as a kid, so from the age of 14 or 15 onward ended up defaulting to (often ratty) jeans and t-shirts. I was grunge long before there was a name for it (besides, of course, "slob"). <br /><br />Sewing has changed that. Now that I can sew the clothes I want, that actually fit, jeans and t-shirts just don't cut it. Why wear them when I can wear something much more beautiful and interesting? <br /><br />But my first big shift toward cleaning up my act came when I looked around one day and realized that <i>everyone</i> was now a slob, and many of them worse than me. I gave up t-shirts with slogans and band logos sometime after age 30, preferred boots to athletic shoes, and even at my slobbiest never wore sweats in public or anything too tight orrevealing--I had <i>standards,</i> damn it! But I was so used to standing out by being poorly-dressed, it came as a shock to realize I was now just another part of the undifferentiated slobbo masses. <br /><br />I stopped wearing jeans seven years ago, at the height of the "designer denim" craze. Hearing some obnoxious stylist on TV tell me that denim was a new wardrobe staple that every woman <i>absolutely must have</i> did it. I'd already been switching over to plain-front chinos because I needed to dress better for work, but after that, chinos became my everyday clothes and all the jeans went to Goodwill. <br /><br />My wardrobe is still in transition. Some habits are hard to break. Trying new things brings on fits of self-consciousness, and sometimes they just don't work out. On bad days, it seems like too much bother. Plus, I don't really know what the hell I'm doing; I'm figuring it all out as I go. <br /><br />But most days, I am determined to at least turn whatever I've put on up another notch--add a scarf or jewelry, wear better shoes, wear a real jacket instead of fleece or a hoodie, change bags, get rid of something I realize no longer fits or is looking seedy. And in the process, I've started to realize that it doesn't take much to make even the most ordinary clothes look much more polished, sophisticated--<i>intentional.</i> I don't want to look like I'm dressing by default anymore, without ever looking in a mirror, and sometimes just one simple decision makes all the difference. <br /><br />I half-suspect that these days "sophisticated" means "I think about my clothes before I put them on. I think about whether they are attractive and appropriate, and how others might perceive me while wearing them. And since I want to be seen as the intelligent, interesting, capable adult human being who loves beauty and is worthy of respect that I am, I have dressed accordingly."Magical Realisthttp://twitter.com/magicalrealistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-34142888666575337772011-07-13T16:58:34.549-04:002011-07-13T16:58:34.549-04:00I think the loss of a wealthy leisure class is a m...I think the loss of a wealthy leisure class is a main reason for the loss of sophistication. If you have nothing do all day but shop and dress, of course you're going to look good! The average person likely didn't look much more put together than now. The working poor have always worn poorly fitting, lesser quality, worn out clothes. Who turns a suit nowadays? It was done out of necessity.<br /><br />I don't see the Olson sisters as sophisticated because they're too young. A sense of self, experience and self confidence are necessary for true beauty. Sophistication seems to be a veneer that fakes confidence for those who don't have it.Summerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14800522660951414782noreply@blogger.com