tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post2563371737288070280..comments2023-10-20T08:27:40.314-04:00Comments on male pattern boldness: Nudity vs. Simulated NudityPeter Lappinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-9158625784767113112012-10-19T10:31:36.572-04:002012-10-19T10:31:36.572-04:00The thing I don't like about many simulated pa...The thing I don't like about many simulated partly-nude outfits is that my eye is constantly drawn to the skin-tone "illusion" fabric and I find myself analyzing how the garment was made. In particular, I notice this a lot with skating outfits that competitive skaters wear. I don't want to find my eyes staring at the cut-aways again and again - I want to enjoy the skater's grace and skill. Partly-nude outfits can be done well, but there are a lot out there that are not.<br /><br />Peter, I *do* like your midriff top nudity suggestion - I like how it hangs away from the body rather than trying to be nude tone and skin tight. Looking forward to seeing the rest!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-60700434220587393242012-10-18T20:39:20.522-04:002012-10-18T20:39:20.522-04:00I am fascinated by faux nudity in costume! I recen...I am fascinated by faux nudity in costume! I recently watched the opening sequence of 'PARTY GIRL' starring Cyd Charisse on youtube, in which she plays one of a troupe of nightclub dancers. They appear to be nude apart from srategically placed gold sequins and motifs, however, the next scene shows the girls backstage in their dressing room and close up you can see that they are in fact completely covered in flesh-coloured mesh or illusion right up to their necks and down to their wrists it's all an 'illusion' after all!VermilionCorsetryCouturehttp://www.vermillioncorsetrycouture.blogspot.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-32501950279174072192012-10-18T18:45:01.316-04:002012-10-18T18:45:01.316-04:00Beyond belief, Peter....................Beyond belief, Peter....................lizziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17345707661431587475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-26919377172240415832012-10-18T12:39:43.785-04:002012-10-18T12:39:43.785-04:00Klinger never had those legs. Peter has seriously...Klinger never had those legs. Peter has seriously great legs.lwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08731797783816953087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-59569376470689390612012-10-18T11:46:58.943-04:002012-10-18T11:46:58.943-04:00Considering the diversity of the world. Nude used ...Considering the diversity of the world. Nude used to describe a color is the elephant in the room.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-63625498893263193872012-10-18T11:35:06.759-04:002012-10-18T11:35:06.759-04:00A corset bloggers definition of soufflé, the fabri...A corset bloggers definition of soufflé, the fabric. Seems to fit here (no pun intended)...<br /><br />http://farthingalescorsetblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/soufle-souffle-soofull.htmlRon B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-52505865430335848842012-10-18T07:54:46.731-04:002012-10-18T07:54:46.731-04:00I believe Marlene's foam foundation inspired t...I believe Marlene's foam foundation inspired the Tempur-pedic mattress.Peter Lappinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-76038121561836073932012-10-18T06:44:25.535-04:002012-10-18T06:44:25.535-04:00A big yes to the simulated nudity. Let's bring...A big yes to the simulated nudity. Let's bring it back please. For all of our sakes: you get to be sexy but no cellulite showing? Win win!Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04942455468832787000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-15271378938354368742012-10-18T06:39:09.819-04:002012-10-18T06:39:09.819-04:00Simulated nudity = burlesque :)Simulated nudity = burlesque :)Phyllishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04668161467072636784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-86866992580929732392012-10-17T20:56:57.769-04:002012-10-17T20:56:57.769-04:00A turban and pearls becomes you.A turban and pearls becomes you.Testosteronenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-7727570839808489632012-10-17T20:29:46.817-04:002012-10-17T20:29:46.817-04:00Peter, I think you need to change your name to Pet...Peter, I think you need to change your name to Petra when you wear this costume. And don't be bragging about how easy it is to find a bra that fits.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-57905250662557524802012-10-17T18:37:46.089-04:002012-10-17T18:37:46.089-04:00You know what I love most about that photo of you ...You know what I love most about that photo of you in this outfit? The five o'clock shadow! It adds that little something ...Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11274649006496918800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-39485399094718059552012-10-17T16:57:16.648-04:002012-10-17T16:57:16.648-04:00Hi. I'm with the majority here, in agreeing th...Hi. I'm with the majority here, in agreeing that "faux nude" can be more alluring than the real thing. But sometimes, it's just creepy. If the illusion fabric is close-to-but-not-quite-the-right-skin tone, it looks like a disease.<br /><br />Personally, I prefer an outfit with "strategic skin" -- show a bit of your best, but not ALL of anything, not matter how flawless you are. So, a high-front, long-sleeve dress with a back down to almost-there. Or a plunging neckline with a modest-length skirt. Or, if you have decent legs (and I no longer do), a shorter skirt with otherwise modest cut. Anything else, and you begin to resemble something between a "real housewife" and a streetwalker.<br /><br />This doesn't necessarily apply to costumes, where anything goes and ill-matched illusion is still preferable to real skin.<br /><br />As for "souffle," have you seen the Vintage Fashion Guild's wonderful new Fabric Resource? It's free and available to the public, and can be quoted if credited properly. "Courtesy Vintage Fashion Guild" will suffice ; ):<br /><br />http://vintagefashionguild.org/fabric-resource/souffleBetterDressesVintagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09762212227282569473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-15854132516875097562012-10-17T16:45:13.437-04:002012-10-17T16:45:13.437-04:00I think that people generally look better with clo...I think that people generally look better with clothes on. I also think that it doesn't matter how much you cover up. Have you seen this one?<br /><br />http://thedreamstress.com/2010/04/rate-the-dress-mae-west-in-violets-and-marabou/<br /><br />P.S<br />Are you a fan of M*A*S*S*H?<br />With that turban and stubble you really, really remind me of Klinger. That's a good thing though, he's my favorite character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-14870838977285329122012-10-17T15:15:38.062-04:002012-10-17T15:15:38.062-04:00Oh good on you. Nudity is for interactivity or per...Oh good on you. Nudity is for interactivity or personal whatever, not for show and display, IMHO. I think more is more - the promise of potential future more revealing is way sexier than very revealing is. Just as I feel a tan is not as sexy as pale skin, because it implies a lot of revealed flesh out in public to get that tan.<br />As a teen just left school, I made costumes for nude reviews, which of course aren't anything of the sort, there are only moments of glimpsed bits occasionally. The technical challenge was all in the removing - where to place fastenings and what sort, what the inside of a garment looked like as it would also be showing, etc. And now I know a lot of burlesque performers, most of whom are old school types who are more into the comedy than skin, and really the fun of it is in the comedy and the cheek, which to me is a big reason why it is worlds away form stripping!MrsC (Maryanne)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14440723067459232998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-87429566895956924292012-10-17T15:11:40.516-04:002012-10-17T15:11:40.516-04:00In which case she should own two. Or manufacturers...In which case she should own two. Or manufacturers should stop cruelly making white. They're never white for more than a few weeks anyway.<br /><br />On the same token, I think my friend will be spending Halloween in women's nude colored briefs because the yellow satin I made his pants out of shows EVERYTHING slightly darker underneath.HillBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08181318928302167671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-53290553036892540742012-10-17T14:50:12.208-04:002012-10-17T14:50:12.208-04:00Dietrich's Jean Louis illusion gowns were inde...Dietrich's Jean Louis illusion gowns were indeed works of art, on which she was an active collaborator in terms of the placement of each bead and sequin. <br /><br />They were also miracles of engineering, as the effect was dependent not merely on the dress itself, but on an equally ingenious understructure armature that grew more elaborate as the years passed (by the end, I've heard, the combined costume could more or less stand up on its own).<br /><br />There's a story that Marlene was once asked to lend one of her stage gowns to a fashion show, and did so - but <i>sans</i> the foundation, and so only solidified her legend when the model looked like hell wearing the heavily encrusted illusion dress with nothing but her own anatomy to hold it up.Muscatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04657061324487851341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-26448966906998260392012-10-17T14:45:32.696-04:002012-10-17T14:45:32.696-04:00Or she doesn't own a flesh-toned bra or it'...Or she doesn't own a flesh-toned bra or it's in the wash. :)Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11447949592701882774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-35668684047107838772012-10-17T14:43:58.365-04:002012-10-17T14:43:58.365-04:00"Is this word used because the gowns are puff..."Is this word used because the gowns are puffy like a soufflé ?"<br /><br />-I think so, based on the meaning of the word - as a noun means breath/whisper. The fabric itself probably has a lightness/airiness about it.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11447949592701882774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-91201003402616147722012-10-17T14:26:35.164-04:002012-10-17T14:26:35.164-04:00Pro-tip, tan/flesh colored bras work better under ...Pro-tip, tan/flesh colored bras work better under light clothing than white. Any girl wearing a white bra under light clothing simply has friends who don't like her enough to tell her that. HillBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08181318928302167671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-64440751382214970802012-10-17T13:38:04.249-04:002012-10-17T13:38:04.249-04:00I think the simulated nudity is way sexier - as so...I think the simulated nudity is way sexier - as soon as I saw the post my mind immediately jumped to that Marilyn Monroe dress in Some Like It Hot!Sasha Rockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08562629431009481946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-8448630692250203432012-10-17T13:34:23.643-04:002012-10-17T13:34:23.643-04:00I don't know how I feel about simulated nudity...I don't know how I feel about simulated nudity; on the one hand, it's cute, and you get to retain a pretense of modesty... on the other hand, the intent is there, you know? You're still intending to show off all the goods, but have hangups about your personal body or bodies in general and kind of fudge it.<br /><br />It's not real modesty, it's just a way of pretending like you're not emulating a Vegas showgirl, as someone put it. (Actually, Vegas showgirls work with nude and sheer fabrics a lot, with fantastic and beautiful - but still very slutty - results.)<br /><br />I guess I'd say I think it's pretty, the workmanship is gorgeous and I can appreciate the look, but I feel weird about the reinforcement of problematic female expectations. <br /><br />Be sexy; but your real body is undesirable. Be alluring; but make sure that you can *say* that you're modest. I think I'd rather let it all hang out and be honest about it, or cover myself up!<br /><br />Besides, my nudity is for me, not for anyone else, and that kind of alluring and coy pretense is definitely showing off for other people, not for me. <br /><br />And if that's your goal (like the showgirl example above, or the actresses in the post), that is totally sexy and fine, but I feel like a lot of times the illusion is just used as an excuse to pretend like you're *not* showing off for others.<br /><br />P.S. That Jean Louis gown is breathtaking. Holy cow. Nude fabric as a way of making jewelry dresses? Yes please.<br /><br />P.P.S. Sorry for commenting anonymously; it keeps saying I don't own my Wordpress name. But my site is http://thefiveeffs.wordpress.com/; it occurred to me I shouldn't be all controversial and pro-nudity and then be scared to attach my name, face and my own rather revealing costume to it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-20788180233120867392012-10-17T13:24:09.611-04:002012-10-17T13:24:09.611-04:00thank you so much for those references. I checked ...thank you so much for those references. I checked them up, and now, the word "soufflé" sounds glamorous to my ears!<br /><br />Is this word used because the gowns are puffy like a soufflé ?<br />I'll investigate this, when I'll have another idle afternoon at work.<br /><br />Thanks again.<br />E.Samiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08130876762504866649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-3921317838150306122012-10-17T13:13:51.360-04:002012-10-17T13:13:51.360-04:00Peter, you're right. People look better with ...Peter, you're right. People look better with clothes. ;) I've drawn and sculpted a few dozen naked people in my years of art school, so I've seen naked people more than most... And clothes are better!Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717835382469677601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991166428290808171.post-23197110185381050062012-10-17T13:02:30.476-04:002012-10-17T13:02:30.476-04:00http://pinterest.com/pin/261490322085541230/
It l...http://pinterest.com/pin/261490322085541230/<br /><br />It looks like it was a very sheet silk knit.Peter Lappinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109154527996679077noreply@blogger.com